devil

topic posted Tue, March 6, 2007 - 12:12 PM by  burning flames
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I have an interest in this because I am dealing with some schizoid delusions (or realities) involving the selling of my soul to the devil and subsequent damnation and the waiting for death so i can burn for all eternity. I am starting to learn about jung and reality tunnels as well as other form of spirituality like shamanism, egyptian meditiation, voudon palo, and lukumi and I am not sure if the voices i hear are real or not, or who they are. But I seem to have a conscious in my mind that tells me i have sold my soul and am damned and heading for hell. Sometimes he identifies himself as satan, many times he calls himself "me."


I have several theories as to why all this is happening. I have led up till recently a life containing a caustic family realtionship. I fought and argued with my brother and parents for many years and I am very ashamed of the evilI I have comitted verbally and in the uncontrolled use of my temper.

I now fear it is too late since this is what the voices tell me. I initially began having enormous dread in crowds and hearing a dark male voice telling me bad things about myself. this was under the influence of marijuana. At this time my family issues were not being adequately worked on and I was struggling in college.

Eventually, when high, the voice identified himself as the devil. One time, when high I sold him my soul and immediately knew that i was going to hell and going to burn for all time.

A lot of this might have to do with imprinting of religious ideas and projections. The actuall beings i hear may be thought complexes or personalities from my collective unconscious that have found my ego and like to intrude on it.

I have heard schizoid thought is a defense mechanism that is caused by stress and that this is my particular defense mechanism. I am convinced my family relationship and negative actions influenced this whole process.

I am wondering if you understand or can offer any insight into this. And if you can point me to any authors or thinkers or philosophies that could provide assistance.



I was wondering if this is my personal god or lower power, and is it evil and mean becauseI was evil and mean? OR is this the inner power that was in my since birth that has shaped my actions from the unconscious since birth. (I often think i am a demon, or was just born bad, and the voice often agrees that I am demonic or a bad seed)

In public i am distraught because I think I have connections with other lost souls who are also grimly awaiting merciless punishment in hell.

I also hear voices in public that make me think i am picking up other peoples thoughts but only if the thoughts have to do with my status as a damned soul, a person that "is finished" and that "nothing can be done for."


Well I just wanted to see if you could offer any advice.

thank you,
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burning flames
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  • Re: devil

    Tue, March 20, 2007 - 3:36 PM

    Irregardless of the possibility that this is some sort of higher dimensional contact and opportunity for spiritual breakthrough yadda yadda, I'd take this seriously as a possible life threatening mental illness episode and seek relatively conventional psychiatric care. At the very least team up with someone who can be ground control for you and pull the switch when these experiences make it impossible for you to cope or guarantee the safety of yourself or others.

    Of course whoever you might turn to for help no doubt will be clueless about the many positive and intriguing ways you could interpret these experiences, but they are more likely to be tuned in to the real possibilities of actual mental health problems, which should be given equal weight with the 'alternative' models. Sometimes people really do just go crazy. Wouldn't want ya to do that!

    Ok, having said that I'd read some Stanislav Grof to go with all the other good stuff you are processing. Check out Spiritual Emergency for a positive spin on acute psychiatric episodes.

    be well !
  • Re: devil

    Tue, September 16, 2008 - 3:17 AM
    Where does "devil" come from? Any hypotheses? Not the word but the symbol. I have schizoid delusions a-plenty but devil is not one of them, in fact, the image of a baphomet brings me great comfort. It's the best creative mailbox I've found.

    Last spring it was the Hanged Man, autumn was Death, most of this year the Temperance... maybe I can skip the Devil and go straight for the Tower, or just do two Towers, I could use the network news coverage to plug my book.
    • Re: devil

      Tue, September 16, 2008 - 9:01 AM
      anyone who believes in the devil is the devil
      • Re: devil

        Wed, September 17, 2008 - 9:31 AM
        "Evil to him who thinks evil."

        I like juice.
        • Re: devil

          Wed, September 17, 2008 - 1:42 PM
          I hate to say it, I am usually of the mind that excellent understanding can lead one out of any dark place in this case however I must say.

          This sounds VERY much like schizophrenia.

          You should seek medical help.

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